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"Is it time for a new name for the organization to
reflect its current and future membership?"
"Does the OGN-Old Guard News need a new name or image?
"

Association of YMC Retirees
Open Forum (Your views and opinions)
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Bill Davies

Note the
date of
Letter!
Letter from

Phil Wortman

Willis
Letter from

Henry
Helton, Jr.
Weatherford
Letter and
design art
from
Walt Price
VP-East
Comment via email from Craig Altschul,   Editor of  Perspective Journal (AYP)    

" I tend to disagree about the name of the newsletter.  I think Old Guard
News is sort of fun and carries a tradition.   We're all in trouble if the
newsletter name keeps the "youngins' from joining.    I don't have a vote,
but if I did, I'd say keep it.
Now, the name NAYFR is another story. ca    
Letter from

Stew Brown

Wiedensall
Bob Shelton        Grand Canyon

Suggestion for the name of the organization and its                   
newsletter:  National Association of YMCA Retirees - USA;       
or    NAYRUSA;          NAYRUSA NEWS (Newsletter)

After submitting a suggestion, I read the forum.  I really            
like Walt Price's suggestions and his graphic art design.         
What do we call us for short?   FYRUSA   (pronounced              
fye-roo-sah) - has a little ring to it.
I would like to cast my vote in favor of keeping the name "Old Guard News".  I echo Henry Hilton's question about the history of
the name--has it ever been any thing else?  Who thought of it originally and when?  To me it has historical significance.
As to NAFYR, it obviously isn't accurate any more, since our Canadian friends chose to be more independent; Fellowship of Y
Retirees  would be enough for me, but I have no strong feeling on the name.  I admire our present(and past) leadership and give
them a strong vote of confidence. I enjoy going to the reunions and seeing old friend, but don't chose to be more active.

Owen Manchester, Weatherford Chapter        
                                                                    
                                           Web Note:  View the History Summary above
David, I attempted to add a suggestion on the NAFYR website but could not get it to enter.  When we were touring the Grand
Rapids Y our tour guide said to us she did not know what NAFYR was or even that there was a YMCA retirement group, and she
has been working for the Y as a Program Director for 9 years.  I think changing the organizations name is important but not
sure necessary to change newsletters name.

Suggestion:  obtain names from Retirement Fund who are within a certain number of years of retirement (I know this varies,
but just pick a number) and promote to this group NAFYR and not just wait until we get there names from the Retirement Fund
that they have retired.

Don Stetson , Hoosier-Buell   

Web Note:  You need to send email to dcbast@comcast.net or use response form above to send comment.  Thank You
Bruce Wands, Great Ozark writes

I would support a name change that better reflects who we are and where we came from, that would better relate to those who
are working for the YMCA and will be retiring in the future.    Also look at possible name changes for the Chapters that better
reflect where we are located.                Thanks
Click on this link to view (print a copy if you
wish) of a summarized history of the
organization from its informal beginning in
1936 as
IARS through changes to IARD
and to the current NAFYR.

Our History
Everett  Heer,  Grand Canyon

I prefer to keep the Old Guard News for the newsletter but I agree that NAFYR is no longer the correct name so we should            
work together to get a new name.  Association of Retired Y Professions is a suggestion but I am open as others have good          
ideas. A committee might determine the decision.
An additional comment from Walt Price, Vice President-East and Ellenwood Chapter Member:

Had another comment on "Old Guard".  The Old Guard is a very respected Infantry group that has the honor of being at the         
Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington.  Their requirements are really rigorous.  You could probably google their site to see                
 them.  I was duly impressed when I first heard them.
From Ken Landro, President of Upper Midwest Chapter

I agree completely with the Phoenix staff member comments re: Name of Org.  and name of Newsletter.  Need to be               
changed.  As Pres. of Upper Midwest the past couple of years, we have been unable to recruit any new members.  I
recently sent 8 letters and followed up with phone calls to people in our region retiring and so far no response or                        
commitments.  5 of the 8 are females.  Don`t know how much the 2 items cited affect our efforts but I am beginning to              
think we are a dying organization as our members are getting older and we are not attracting newly retired.  
     Thanks,  ken landro.
  At the request of your webmaster, Don Zerwer from McCoy Chapter supplied us with a                             
redesign of the current logo reflecting  the simple FYR for Fellowship of YMCA Retiree's.

Don writes:
I like FYR for Fellowship of YMCA Retirees. I did 2 versions. The 2nd has a shorter ribbon                 
banner.
From Phil Hellwege, Greater Ozarks

I've felt for a long time that the name should be changed.  When I tell somebody about the
org.  I refer to it as "Y (or) YMCA  Retirees"  Why not use this for it's real name?
From Chuck Hines of the Weatherford Chapter

The name YMCA referring to the Young MEN'S Christian Association has never kept women and
girls from joining and participating, and they now comprise about 60% of our staff members
nationally. I don't see them pushing to change the name of the YMCA, or are they?  Names and titles
are important, but they are seldom the reason anyone joins or supports an organization or a cause.
If NAFYR hopes to attract new members, we must look elsewhere beyond a name change for the
organization or the newsletter in order to produce results.
Additional Suggestion
and Possible Logo
Drafts

Phil Wortmann